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Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 04, 2010, 11:16:46 PM
i have a c33 laurel and am looking at adjustable suspension at the moment

i got told yesterday that p11 primera adjustables will go straight into my laurel.
i googled some pictures and they look similar/the same but can anyone confirm this?
as i'm not too keen to fork out for adjusties then find out they're the wrong set.
also are "platform" (brand) adjustables any good?

cheers
Title: suspension
Post by: BADHAB|T on August 04, 2010, 11:19:40 PM
Cant say if they will fit or not, but surely the spring rates will not be right for your car!?
I could be wrong, but A31 Cef or Silvia suspension is similar to Laurel gear... maybe try looking in that area?
Title: suspension
Post by: dimaat on August 04, 2010, 11:35:24 PM
S13 ones will definitely fit.  I havent heard of anyone using primera adjusties.  i'd be wary buying them tbh for that matter.  Being a fwd/4wd I doubt they would be compatible.

Also have never heard of platform?
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 05, 2010, 09:30:39 AM
yea have run s13 ones it in before

oh yea true didit think about spring rate etc...
algood ill keep looking and saving up
should probably try stay away from second hand ones anyway...
Title: suspension
Post by: smkadktz on August 25, 2010, 11:34:44 AM
yeah man would be best to stay away from 2nd hand adjusties cuz you never know what you'll get. never heard of primera going in to laurys either. a31 cefiro and s13 defintly fit. its all the same **** with a31s and c33s really. just a different shape shell. r32 fronts will fit in your rear to im pretty sure.
Title: suspension
Post by: skidMark on August 25, 2010, 01:18:08 PM
a mate bought 2nd hands... put em in and they leaked and had to buy new ones to get cert... just go new, not worth the risk.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 25, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
yea ive learnt not to be cheap...
might take longer to get it done but if i go new parts it will be better in the long run
thanks for the help anyway
Title: suspension
Post by: Zanthiath on August 25, 2010, 06:09:53 PM
Go for a set of s13 BC's
Best bang for buck,
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 26, 2010, 10:09:40 AM
yea ive heard heaps of good things about BCs and including from people on here so will probably run with BC golds
saving time now...
Title: suspension
Post by: smkadktz on August 26, 2010, 01:51:47 PM
bc's are pretty good. my mate uses them in his 20det cefiro. handles a dream! aparently when they have problems though theyre not easy to rebuild @ all.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 26, 2010, 02:48:34 PM
ah yea ive heard about different brands being a b***h to rebuild.
has he had problems with his?
im guessing if i get new ones theyll have some sort of warrenty and shouldnt give problems for a while anyway
Title: suspension
Post by: sublime89 on August 27, 2010, 09:39:41 AM
how do adjustables handle bumpy terrain, any loss in tracktion etc?
Title: suspension
Post by: Redbush on August 27, 2010, 10:58:06 AM
spent some time airborne when had the dampners at their hardest with the s14
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on August 28, 2010, 11:06:20 AM
hahah yea i went in a mates 180sx and the adjusties were on full (hard) damper
if he went round a corner too quick the back would just catch up
not bad but you could definatly feel it twitching!
bumps were a bit rough but aslong as you dont hit them too fast they are forgiving
but once again not the smoothest on corners
Title: suspension
Post by: Redbush on August 28, 2010, 11:15:53 AM
14 clicks back of hard and they are mint for everyday driving
Title: suspension
Post by: smkadktz on August 28, 2010, 03:05:41 PM
he hasnt had any problems with his bc's that i know of. other then no cert at warrent time haha. theres a few that are gay to rebuild. teins are the easiest i got told by the mechanic in the company that rebuilds all our shocks and stuff.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 03, 2010, 11:01:23 AM
hahah sweet as ill keep it all in mind
BCs sound like a safe option

oh thats good to know about teins
ive heard that teins dont go very low?
not a huge issue rwally though cause theyre a good brand so should do the job well
Title: suspension
Post by: 4BOOSTN on September 03, 2010, 12:43:58 PM
depends whats type of tein you go for man, super streets- dnt go very low but have a very good ride quality,
tien flexs- go low and are more track orientated, heavier spring rates etc etc.

really comes down to what you want ae man.
most people arent to fussed with a harsher ride.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 03, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
oh true thanks man

yea im not worried about the bounce and rattles cause i have a daily so it doesnt have to be confortable.

roughly how much are tein flexs worth?
Title: suspension
Post by: projects on September 03, 2010, 03:24:51 PM
i picked up some JIC FLT-A2's from a S13 and put them in my A31 cefiro. Yeah they were second hand but tidy condition no leaks and took the gamble on them. picked them up for $950 and pretty happy with them. dont some modifications to them so i could get my car nice and low in the rear as alot of suspension dont allow for much in the rear on nissans to go down. ended up with this height at the lowest in the rear and front could probably put the cross member on the ground if i wanted to...
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr283/projects_album/DSC00116.jpg)
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 03, 2010, 03:38:04 PM
oh choice thanks for that

ive had JICs in the car before and they did go low however the ones i had were knocking a fair bit

ill keep an eye out for a set if they look really clean etc
in the process of saving for them at the moment so still a bit off
Title: suspension
Post by: projects on September 03, 2010, 03:50:23 PM
yeah i got about another inch and half of lowness out of mine by rearranging the top hat-rose joint configuration. and also trimming off some of the thread in the lower joint bolt. worked a treat!!
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 03, 2010, 03:53:07 PM
hahah thats a thought!
oh yea how do you re-arrange the top hat part?
does that just mount the top hat lower and therfore bring it down?
Title: suspension
Post by: 4BOOSTN on September 06, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
tein flexes new are around the $3000-3500......
Title: suspension
Post by: projects on September 06, 2010, 01:27:57 PM
nah my top hat if i remember properly had the nut ontop, the rose jointed top hat, then a spacer and then the spring top hat and a spacer under that aswell.

so all i dont was pull it all apart rearrange it to top bolt, 2 spacers, top hat and coil hat. the rose joint didnt have full movement but enough to get into the mount and pivot more than enough to reach the lower hub mount.

So there was just more poking into the boot, the length from the top hat to lower joint bacame shorter. trimmed the bump stops a little. but its so stiff it will never get to them anyway. more just to please wof man on travel.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 06, 2010, 04:57:03 PM
Quote from: projects;508241
nah my top hat if i remember properly had the nut ontop, the rose jointed top hat, then a spacer and then the spring top hat and a spacer under that aswell.

so all i dont was pull it all apart rearrange it to top bolt, 2 spacers, top hat and coil hat. the rose joint didnt have full movement but enough to get into the mount and pivot more than enough to reach the lower hub mount.

So there was just more poking into the boot, the length from the top hat to lower joint bacame shorter. trimmed the bump stops a little. but its so stiff it will never get to them anyway. more just to please wof man on travel.


oh yup yup choice
sounds simple enough i guess
and by the looks of it they definatly went low!
Title: suspension
Post by: projects on September 06, 2010, 05:07:22 PM
yeah very simple.
yeah had to raise it for mean time. but once i get some wider wheels to sit outside the guards and throw the car out on the track hopefully can get it sitting nice and low.
Title: suspension
Post by: c33burgerman on September 06, 2010, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: projects;508267
yeah very simple.
yeah had to raise it for mean time. but once i get some wider wheels to sit outside the guards and throw the car out on the track hopefully can get it sitting nice and low.


yea for sure!
with the wide body front and flaired back you'll be set!