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gtstCruiser

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What to put in my s13?
« on: February 15, 2005, 01:53:47 PM »
Hey all

I've picked myself up a s13 (sr20de) the exterior is pretty rugged but that doesn't bother me as im straightening it up and painting it myself.

But i am now starting to think seriously about an engine conversion.

My first thoughts were to get a sr20det as i thought that would be the best option. But researched a bit and flagged it.

CA18DET , RB20DET , RB25DET, VG30DET? , RB26DETT

i'm wanting to spend about 5 grand on the engine (not including the actual conversion) which i'll be saving up for over this year.  

The CA wouldn't cost near that much but i don't know too much about it and just want a bit of feedback.

Most s13 hybrids have rb20's in them. Plus their rev happy?

rb25's im not sure of as i haven't been in one. Maybe the VG30 and RB26 is a bit of overkill. But hey what a sleeper!!

I also mentioned the rb26 cuz i saw one on trademe for that price.


My purpose is just for daily driving (to work n back) but i thought if im spending this amount of money i might as well go all out.

So yea your thoughts and opinions are welcome.

Cheers

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 02:41:13 PM »
13b

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 03:30:31 PM »
rb25det or rb30det for 5k
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2005, 03:37:47 PM »
Just out of interest why did you flag the SR20DET?

The RB and VG's are a heavy lump of an engine so may mess up the handling with the extra weight over the front axle? Though as you say S13/14 RB20 hybrids are relatively common.

My thoughts would be that if you want the maximum amount of power, and aren't too concerned about cornering, then the RB or VG's would be the way to go. But if you want to keep the lightweight chuckable character of the Silvia then stick with a 4cyl - the CA if you have to or the SR20DET?
« Last Edit: February 15, 2005, 03:48:09 PM by Ant »

gtstCruiser

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2005, 03:47:51 PM »
oooo never thought about puttin a rotary in it hehe.. i'll read up a lil more bout em

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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2005, 05:31:39 PM »
I have the RB20DET in mine.  It is aeasier swap than the SR.
CA18DET=  weak to start with but after 5k... might be something to fear )for others, that is)
RB25DEt= difficult swap due to the larger tranny (does not fit well into S13 tunnel.  But the main problem is wiring.  The S13 and R32 RB20DEt share VERY similar wiring architecture.  The R33 wiring is very different.  The R32/S13 has an Engine harness that stands by itself.  The R33 has many other items incorporated into it.  And it connects to the bi=ody harness in a different location than the R32/S13.
VG30DE  we tried this swap once, and almost pulled it off. The wiring architechture was similar (Z32) to the S13 but there were a couple of little things that made us put it on the back burner and we never picked it up again.  Sold the body and pickled the engine (for later).  The engine also had to mount to one side by about 30cm.  Cant remember why...

RB26DETT  same problems as RB25 and have to use RB25 tranny.  Both RB25 and 26 fit better in the S14 body and the wiring is more similar to the S14.

Dunno about the R32 RB26DETT wiring...never looked at one... actually.  Ive never seen an R32 whole.

gtstCruiser

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 02:15:52 PM »
hey thanks for that!

okay i'll be going with the rb20 then although i can buy a ca18det and manual gearbox cheap (about a grand)

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 02:57:14 PM »
With 4 grand you can make a pretty nasty CA18.  but  I have an RB20DET in My S13 and My best mate has a CA18DET.  Both are stock with filter and exhaust.  Mine has a boost controller (set at .8bar)  And mine just crushes his in a race.  His is more fun to fling around and has a better torque curve for traffic.  I have to gun the crap out of mine to make it go...  But when it does :-) :-)

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 03:21:25 PM »
all im going to say is ANYTHING is better than a CA18 YUCK!

I think RB20 would be the best value for money, plus they sound and rev a whole load better than the SR- Just its the sacrifice of low down torque, but considering how light an S13 is an RB20 would go hard

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 08:16:54 PM »
not sure what else if anything has been done to your car, but I would consider budgeting in some upgraded brakes and suspension....  

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 09:19:21 PM »
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all im going to say is ANYTHING is better than a CA18 YUCK!

I think RB20 would be the best value for money, plus they sound and rev a whole load better than the SR- Just its the sacrifice of low down torque, but considering how light an S13 is an RB20 would go hard

I here congratulations are in order Gareth.On the new arrival to your family.Your sister has mighty fine taste:D ;)
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2005, 07:34:44 AM »
beat the majority dude, 13B would be very cool.

everyones got a RB in their S13, it was cool couple of years back.


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all im going to say is ANYTHING is better than a CA18 YUCK!

I think RB20 would be the best value for money, plus they sound and rev a whole load better than the SR- Just its the sacrifice of low down torque, but considering how light an S13 is an RB20 would go hard


ha, if u think CA18 is yuck, then RB20 is just as yuck, only if u know wat i am talking about. :laugh:

25T_Sedan

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2005, 08:32:32 AM »
whats so bad about a CA18DET???

There are people that are making some very good power from these engines RELIABLY!!

Heard about some guy not sure if he was in aus or usa that was doing 9's in his ca18 powered s13.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2005, 09:13:58 AM »
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I here congratulations are in order Gareth.On the new arrival to your family.Your sister has mighty fine taste:D ;)


lol yeah its ok, dosent make me wana run out and buy one though;)

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2005, 09:16:45 AM »
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Originally posted by 25T_Sedan
whats so bad about a CA18DET???

There are people that are making some very good power from these engines RELIABLY!!

Heard about some guy not sure if he was in aus or usa that was doing 9's in his ca18 powered s13.


Theres a guy doing 11's with a lada engine as well, dont make it overly great. Any motor will do what you want if you spend the money on it