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« on: October 03, 2005, 06:01:21 PM »
Hey all,

Got the car back today (FINALLY) and after a few hickups alternator not charging the battery, some noisy lifters etc it seems to be pretty good.

I now have to "RUN IN" the new motor, and was wondering how I should go about doing this?

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2005, 06:18:08 PM »
For greatest longevity, 5,000km under 4,000rpm with no boost.

Disconnect your wastegate from the turbo ie take off the circlip and pull of the wastegate rod so the internal flap stays open. This way you can floor the car to generate full load without running boost.

Use a full mineral oil for 1,000km then dump oil and change filter.
Again at 2,3,400km.

Then at 5,000, put in a fully synthetic 15W50 and reconnect actuator and go for gold.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2005, 11:51:37 AM »
Sweet as cuz. I dont think I'll bother disconnecting the turbo, but I am keeping the motor under or around the 4000rpm mark. Went for a good drive this morning out in the country, plenty of hills etc for load and just trying to keep the engine off idle (alittle more reving rather than cruising it)

Ill replace oil at 1000Km with fully synthethic and I'll check the torque settings on the head, cam caps and general overall check up. I'll give it a full service too I think.

Once I've done that I'll be installing and tuning a GTSLINK at speedfactor or similar too

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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2005, 03:29:34 PM »
Do not use synthetic for 5,000km. Do 5 x 1,000km mineral fills then the synthetic one.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2005, 05:28:18 PM »
The oil parts is right , the rest is rubbish

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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »
Do Not Do What Bcnr Said !!!!
Thats complete ****

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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2005, 06:05:47 PM »
Humour me. What would you do?

This is exactly what Soichi from ST HiTech told me to do.
This is exactly what Mark from Advan in Aussie told me to do.
This is exactly what Barry told me to do.

Barry has a 300kW @ wheels naturally aspirated Pulsar. He has spent 35 years building engines. All three people, all unrelated and unknown to each other, all very highly regarded for thier expertise, all said the same thing.

Enlighten us, please.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2005, 06:12:40 PM »
Lol. You bag someone for giving an answer that works, yet you can't provide one of your own. Someone feeling out classed are they?

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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2005, 07:31:52 PM »
Outclassed ?
No ....
Ok do whatever you want ..
Where does it say I cant supply info ?
Ive never known anyone to run an engine in like that ......
And I very much doubt Soichi said that.
Humour you ?
How many engines have YOU built,run in or tuned ?
"For greatest longevity, 5,000km under 4,000rpm with no boost."
Like it or not no engine biulder in the world would recommend that.
I dont care what you think you heard these guys say ...
rcon 33 Do not take what anyone here says as being gospel unless they can back up there comments. Have you looked at other sources for help ?
GOOGLE for example ...

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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2005, 09:10:50 PM »
I know what said to me. I was there when they said it. Maybe you should pay a bit more attention.

And to answer your question, only one. It was purely self taught. Just like fully rewiring cars from scratch, wiring Motec and Haltec ecu's etc.

You can say what you want. I was told the same thing independantly by three of the best.

Victor and his 600HP GTR, running in same way. Admittedly he has the ability to run 9PSI, but he is avoiding it and not revving it either. And he is another of Soichi's customers.

I await in humoured anxiety for you to log in and reply, then again under your alias so you can lick your own arse, then again under yet another alias, to have a one man self help orgy.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2005, 09:16:41 PM »
I know what was said to me. I was there when they said it. Maybe you should pay a bit more attention.

And to answer your question, only one. It was purely self taught. Just like fully rewiring cars from scratch, wiring Motec and Haltec ecu's etc.

You can say what you want. I was told the same thing independantly by three of the best.

Victor and his 600HP GTR, running in same way. Admittedly he has the ability to run 9PSI, but he is avoiding it and not revving it either. And he is another of Soichi's customers.

I await in humoured anxiety for you to log in and reply, then again under your alias so you can lick your own arse, then again under yet another alias, to have a one man self help orgy.

Howard Devoto aka RS-01 aka IIIRII

So many log ins, yet so few people...
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2005, 10:01:44 PM »
hhhmmm - yeah I'd just take it easy on the machine for the first couple of thousand km's. It's hard to stay off the boost when you know what's waiting in the wings but it's worth it. Hell just running in new clutches and flywheels is hard enough to take care.

I drove a 2005 BMW M5 today of all things, which is a 500HP V10, they reckoned to not use full excelleration at all, stay below 5,500revs, do not go faster than 220km per hour nor cruise at above 170km for more than a minute for atleast the first 5,000km's. Obviously a different car but the principles are similar ;)

Anyway, don't cars rock.

I am not sure what B.S. is going on with multiple logins and stuff but I am not happy with the thought of it. If this is for real pull your head in! Consider this a warning!!! Also chill out the lip, I come here to learn not read bitch fights, I don't know what history there is nor do I care for it. Stay on task please fellas.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2005, 11:32:46 AM »
Sorry, but I'd have to agree that the WORST thing you could do is pussy it at no more than 4000rpm with no boost. Think about what you are actually trying to achieve here????? Give it gentle/medium throttle and boost at medium rpm levels, give it some gentle/medium work on a hilly windy road in the 3500-5500rpm range, don't labour it, don't use synthetic oil for at least 5000km and you'll be sweet.
Just my opinion and I've never had any problems :-)
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2005, 11:47:47 AM »
Just something I remembered.............About 2 years ago I rebuilt a motor for a car, started it,bled the cooling system, ran it on the dyno for about 20 minutes to check a few things, drove it pretty hard from Rotorua to Meremere dragstrip (about 220km) went straight on the strip with 1.5 bar boost, NOS and ran low 11's, drove it home.
That motor then ran about 50 x 10 second passes, is still in a street car now, untouched, going hard, not breathing etc and has done huge k's.

My point is this.... I think its better to give a fresh motor work (admittadly, maybe not as much as it had:-o)  than labour it around at very low rpm/boost

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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2005, 01:32:39 PM »
BCNR34 seriously , please take your medication.
I have no idea who these other guys are or care ...
I would be more concerned about causing damage to other peoples engines by posting complete crap.
If you dont know what you are talking about please dont post, or at least have enough nouse to give your idea as an option etc:
It would be impossible to even drive some cars under 4000 rpm yet alone drive one for 5000k's , shear stupidity !
Heres a good read
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Maybe spend more time reading facts instead of posting how brilliant you.
Thanks