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jade501

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« on: May 22, 2011, 06:33:32 PM »
building a big fuel pump set up using
-2x 044 bosch external fuel pump
-2x fuel filters  (Fuel Filter - High Flow EFI Inline -6)
-square surge tank

wanting to look like this link, but i am wanting a set up that i never have to change i will be running about 350hp at the moment but 1day might want to run 600hp +, i was woundering what braided fuel lines i should use
ALSO IF ANYONE HAS A BETTER IDEA CHEERS



http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Performance/Fuel-systems/auction-377632264.htm

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 07:54:29 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 10:07:53 PM »
2x bosch 700hps due to wanting external, and bosch a good brand i reckon

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 11:58:38 PM »
Are you saying you're not going to have a lift pump in the tank or you're going to have 4 Bosch pumps,  two in the tank and two external? Two 044s will empty the surge tank pretty quickly - you will need something decent to keep it refilled.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 08:56:41 AM »
oh i get u now it got lol well was plannng on using the walbro 500hp in tank and 1 bocsh into the surge tank and 1 out??

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 11:51:41 AM »
Looks like more then a huge enough setup for just about any engine... flick us an email bro and Ill give ya some more prices on pumps hopefully might be able to help keep ya costs down
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 01:06:31 PM »
For your needs there is no way you need 2x 044's 1 of them is enough for around 350rwkw safely! Any RB turbo factory pump thats in good condition will be enough 2 keep up with your needs for the surge tank but a Walbro intank is only about $190 so its worth using for extra insurance I guess, a 2.5L surge tank will be fine also and you can get them off trademe for less than $200 and you can get them with 2 outlets so if you need lots of fuel down the track then you can add another pump pretty easly also dont pay any more than $320 for a 044 as thats what they go for these days
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 04:42:45 PM »
well im building car 800hp strong and spent big $$$ so far so wanting to keep it the same all through and i have had fuel problems with rbs before so that is why i wana go all out as long as my setup upto $1000 thats what i have budgeted for

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 01:49:23 PM »
Ok thats fair enough an sure its better to build it so you have more supporting mods than you need, but im just trying to be a little bit more logical and give my opinion from the things you previously said, like which is it 350, 600 or 800hp? because going from 350 to 600hp is a huge jump let alone 800hp! and 2 044's, a Walbro and a surge tank is going to be knocking on $1000 just in parts let alone adding in the fittings & lines you need which if you do them right with Earls style fittings can be a easy $400+ just by its self
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 02:16:01 PM »
You can surely get away with a good aftermarket intank to get easy 600+hp.

Have seen it on quite a few cars.
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 02:27:19 PM »
Quote from: xxfr;547818
You can surely get away with a good aftermarket intank to get easy 600+hp.

Have seen it on quite a few cars.


I dont agree with the intank idea at anything over about a 50kw increase in factory power! sure it can be done and has been done but if you respect you motor or if you use it for anything other than average road driving your just asking for trouble.
Surge tanks and good pumps keep your engine alive!
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« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2011, 03:53:57 PM »
so 1 044 and 1 good intank

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2011, 05:16:18 PM »
If using Bosch fuelpumps, Sard collector tank is made to fit 2x internal Bosch fuelpumps with stock? fuelpump as a lift pump. They seem to be correctly sized for application (would need to do calculations to confirm how many litres you need).

It should be quieter due to being internal and takes up less space in the boot -

http://www.sardracing.com/products/fuelcollectortank.htm

Then run to dual entry Sard fuelrail. With Sard fuelrail you could run it single or dual entry.

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« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2011, 07:13:03 PM »
what about sx performance are they any good?? fuel pumps, fuel filters, fuel pressure regulators

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2011, 11:52:45 PM »
I would go with 1 for now as its all you need but do get a surge tank with 2 outlets(similar the one in your link) and bung the second fitting up as then at least its there in the future.

Those Sard products are nice but to bloody expensive, there are cheaper ways with the exact same results to be had.

You dont need anything bigger than about 2.5L or your just going over the top!

SX is also a good brand but they only seem to have 500hp and 1000hp options and nothing in between and they are pretty damn noisy pumps to!
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